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Re: Wierd Stuff
From: Matt Simerson
Date: Friday, September 25, 1998
Time: 8:51:56 pm
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Shawn Hogan wrote:
> Alexi wrote:
>
> Well... If you are comfortable with UNIX, I would stay with UNIX for
> servers at least... UNIX is very nice (if you close up the security holes
> in it). Mac servers are inherently secure, but can't handle the load
> that UNIX machines can. I would say a G3 Mac server could handle the
> same load as an NT machine... But it will do it a lot more gracefully.
> :-)
I started out my ISP on the MacOS platform. A G3 would make a kick-butt
web server but for everything else, you want UNIX. Going back to that TCO
theme, you will manage the heck out of your MacOS servers. It's not the OS
that's the problem but running one program for your mail server with it's
own authentication system, the Web server with it's, the ftp server with
its, etc.. etc... becomes a real nightmare. The MacOS will do the job, and
a G3 will whoop up on a comparably priced NT machine for stability and
performance but neither will touch a UNIX box.
> But... when MacOS X comes out, THEN it will be something really cool.
> MacOS ease of use/stability combined with UNIX core. So you can do your
> stuff via a GUI Mac interface or drop to a BSD shell and do it there if
> you want. Should be interesting...
I love the idea, buuuuuut, you won't catch me running the 1.0 version. :-P
> MacOS Server 1.0 (or whatever it's called) should be out in a month or
> so, and it runs on the Intel platform... Although, I think that a lot of
> general problems with Windows and Intel machines is hardware, so I doubt
> it would be totally seamless.
>
> Who knows... {shrug} Don't listen to me, I'm just a programmer. :-)
Again, this issue can be addressed. My BSDI boxes have every bit as good a
hardware as my MacOS machines because I didn't buy them at Wal-Mart,
K-mart, or Sams club. I purchased high end systems and got server quality.
People are going to expect their $1300 iMac system to be the same quality
as the $4,000 G3 desktop/tower systems. It don't work that way. Although
the iMac is a fantastic bargain for the price, it's not even in the same
league as my 3 year old 8500. It won't power my 21" monitor, it won't
output to a TV, there's not room for my two 4GB drives internally nor my
2GB external, Zip drive, scanner, CD-R, internal Cd, and external CD. What
you say, you can't have that many devices on a SCSI chain. Oh yeah, some
PowerPC Macs have TWO scsi buses. An internal and an external. :)
My point in all this is: Good Intel hardware is as good as Mac hardware.
It's just very rare which is why you are right and that it will not end up
being seamless.
Matt
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