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Hi all,

I'm also having this same problem- I get the "Circular delivery problems"
in my mail logs. I cannot send nor receive mail from any domain. I have
the domains set up in web*4.1 mail, the same machine as my web server and
dns for now.

I have everything else working fine (and hopefully set up correctly).

Now I'm setting up a new mail server and trying to change the dns records to
work properly. As far as I can tell, they are set up right, but mail is
neither sending nor receiving. A couple of the domains set up are:
fennel.net
foothillstrading.com

I also didn't get anything returned when I did an mx lookup for these
domains using dig...

Here's what my mail server says:

ERROR! SMTP Out: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:45:58 -0800 ID=264 SMTP relay. Mail
delivery error ( Circular delivery attempt) To:
webmaster@higherpowered.com From: info@foothillstr...
SMTP In: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:46:06 -0800 disconnect from
www.harrispainthorses.com [208.1.125.162]

Also, Im running web*4.1 as a virtual server. When I do a reverse lookup by
ip address (208.1.125.162) how can I have this return the address of
higherpowered.com?
I have multiple dns records for different domains pointing to this ip
address. when I do a dns lookup for this ip with mactcp watcher I get:
www.ultimatefurniture.com returned as the name- this is one of the virtual
domains.

also notice where it says "disconnect from www.harrispainthorses.com" How do
I get rid of this? Where is it picking this up from?(also another dns
record)
If I do a trace route I get www.higherpowered.com

why does dns lookup not return taoist.higherpowered.com?

Thanks, and Merry x-mas to all, especially those at men and mice!

Jim

>> At 10:05 AM -0800 11/8/99, Mark Russon wrote:
>>> Can someone help me? I am having constant "Circular delivery
>>> problems". My domain is nextnet.com. I was told by the company that
>>> we bought out mail server from that we don't have a "real" dns
>>> server. What is he talking about?
>>
>> I'm guessing you mean that you have a mail loop. This is almost
>> always caused by a misconfigured primary mail server, though it can
>> also be caused by incorrect DNS settings.
>>
>> I checked the DNS records for nextnet.com, and everything looks fine
>> on that end. Your MX record and one of your NS records point to
>> names that resolve to the same address. This indicates that your
>> mail server and your (probably primary) DNS server are running on
>> the same machine. Is this correct?
>
> Yes this is correct
>
>>
>> If so, the problem is in your mail server settings. The mail server
>> needs to be configured to accept (not relay) mail for nextnet.com.
>> Also, if you host any other domains, if the MX record with the
>> lowest priority number points to this machine, then the mail server
>> needs to be configured to accept mail for these domains.
>
> For a short time, 4 days, I had 2 of the domains being forwarded to
> another mail server 207.246.235.213 (this other mail server is
> CommuGate Pro that we are attempting to set up on Mac OS X, but it
> appears we are having trouble setting it up. Our current mail server
> is W* 4.0 on a Mac. We were relaying the mail to this new server to
> see if it worked. Can you tell me if the following would be correct?
> Our current server is 207.246.235.210. We created the following but
> it never worked:
>
> nextnet.com. NS ns1.nextnet.com.
> nextnet.com. NS ns2.nextnet.com.
> nextnet.com. MX 10 mail.nextnet.com.
> ns1.nextnet.com. A 207.246.235.210
> ns2.nextnet.com. A 207.246.235.211
> www.nextnet.com. A 207.246.235.210
> nextnet.com A 207.246.235.210
> mail.nextnet.com A 207.246.235.213
> www2.nextnet.com CNAME www.nextnet.com.
> 210.235.246.207.in-addr.arpa. PTA www.nextnet.com.
> 210.235.246.207.in-addr.arpa. PTA nextnet.com
>
> Not a single message got through.
>
>
>>
>> I'm curious as to what mail server this is. Given that it appears to
>> be running on the same machine as your primary DNS, which I take to
>> be QuickDNS Pro, I have to conclude that this mail server is running
>> on MacOS. Given this, what DNS server would they have you use?
>> Something like BIND, which doesn't run on MacOS without a BSD
>> wrapper (i.e. MachTen)? Or (shudder) MS DNS, which only runs on
>> WindowsNT?
>
> Webstar 4.0
> QuickDNS Pro
>
>>
>> QuickDNS Pro is indeed a "real" DNS server, with performance
>> characteristics rivaling that of BIND. In a sense, MacDNS and
>> Nonsequitur (the other commonly-used DNS servers for MacOS) are not
>> fully functional DNS servers. Perhaps the mail server vendor thought
>> you were using MacDNS.
>
> The guys that told us that were from CommugatePro. They got into our
> machine and said that it was the DNS server that was screwing things
> up. Here is some of the log from their machine:
>
>
> 00:00:26.45 4 DNR-00939(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:01:01.45 3 DNR-00939(www.stalker.com) time-out
> 00:01:01.45 3 SMTPI-00463(www.stalker.com) Failed to resolve: DNS
> transaction timeout. Real address is [216.200.213.114]
> 00:01:01.49 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) MX-request
> 00:01:01.49 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:01:08.45 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:01:22.45 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:01:43.45 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:02:11.44 4 DNR-00940(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:02:46.48 3 DNR-00940(stalker.com) time-out
> 00:02:46.48 1 SMTPI-00463([216.200.213.114]) Return-Path
> 'Philip@stalker.com' rejected: DNS transaction timeout
> 00:11:34.72 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) A-request
> 00:11:34.72 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:11:34.72 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) A-request
> 00:11:34.72 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:11:41.03 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:11:41.03 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:11:55.04 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:11:55.04 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:12:16.04 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:12:16.04 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:12:44.05 4 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:12:44.05 4 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:19.05 3 DNR-00941(ancmail02.ancestry.com) time-out
> 00:13:19.05 3 SMTPI-00464(ancmail02.ancestry.com) Failed to resolve:
> DNS transaction timeout. Real address is [192.216.182.165]
> 00:13:19.05 3 DNR-00942(ancmail02.ancestry.com) time-out
> 00:13:19.05 3 SMTPI-00465(ancmail02.ancestry.com) Failed to resolve:
> DNS transaction timeout. Real address is [192.216.182.165]
> 00:13:19.08 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) MX-request
> 00:13:19.08 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:19.08 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) MX-request
> 00:13:19.08 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:26.05 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:26.05 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:40.05 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:13:40.05 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:14:01.05 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:14:01.05 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:14:29.05 4 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:14:29.05 4 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:15:04.05 3 DNR-00943(myfamily.com) time-out
> 00:15:04.05 1 SMTPI-00464([192.216.182.165]) Return-Path
> 'ReminderService@MyFamily.com' rejected: DNS transaction timeout
> 00:15:04.05 3 DNR-00944(anclist001.ancestry.com) time-out
> 00:15:04.05 1 SMTPI-00465([192.216.182.165]) Return-Path
> 'Ancestry_Weekly_Digest@anclist001.ancestry.com' rejected: DNS
> transaction timeout
> 00:15:04.90 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) MX-request
> 00:15:04.90 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:15:11.06 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:15:25.06 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:15:46.06 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:16:14.06 4 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:16:49.05 3 DNR-00945(myfamily.com) time-out
> 00:16:49.05 1 SMTPI-00465([192.216.182.165]) Return-Path
> 'ReminderService@MyFamily.com' rejected: DNS transaction timeout
> 00:32:46.47 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) A-request
> 00:32:46.47 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:32:53.15 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:33:07.16 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:33:28.15 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:33:56.15 4 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:34:31.17 3 DNR-00946(www.stalker.com) time-out
> 00:34:31.17 3 SMTPI-00466(www.stalker.com) Failed to resolve: DNS
> transaction timeout. Real address is [216.200.213.114]
> 00:34:31.21 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) MX-request
> 00:34:31.21 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:34:38.17 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:34:52.17 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:35:13.18 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:35:41.17 4 DNR-00947(stalker.com) request sent to [207.246.235.213]
> 00:36:16.17 3 DNR-00947(stalker.com) time-out
> 00:36:16.17 1 SMTPI-00466([216.200.213.114]) Return-Path
> 'Philip@stalker.com' rejected: DNS transaction timeout
> 00:46:49.36 4 DNR-00948(ancmail02.ancestry.com) A-request
> 00:46:49.36 4 DNR-00948(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:46:49.36 4 DNR-00949(ancmail02.ancestry.com) A-request
> 00:46:49.36 4 DNR-00949(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:46:56.21 4 DNR-00949(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to
> [207.246.235.213]
> 00:46:56.21 4 DNR-00948(ancmail02.ancestry.com) request sent to [20
>
> Can you figure it out?
>
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