Search Again: Re: mail loop problems? From: Higher Powered Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 Time: 6:35:00 pm WooHoo!! I think I've got the mail server working now (probably still have the wrong name somewhere though.. ) fyi- I changed the alternate dns server in web*4 mail settings from blank(default) to my primary dns and so far everything seems to be working! Of course I still need to clean up these dns records once I understand them (such as the reverse records) Jim > > Thanks for the quick reply- You have got to be one of the fastest on the net > :) > > ok- I fixed the small problems (the secondary server will go up temporarly > after the new year). I didn't quite understand the following: > >> Interesting... You have two MX records in the foothillstrading.com >> domain. Remember to use the @server option with dig. > > What is @server and how do I use it, and I'm not sure what you mean by two > mx records. Do I not need to have postal.higherpowered.com point to the > mail server address in every record? > > > I'm not sure I follow- I thought every dns record needed a reverse file. > The main machine(web server) here is www.higherpowered.com, along with the > name server taoist.higherpowered.com and the mail server > postal.higherpowered.com > >> The reason for this is that you have configured a reverse zone file >> on your own servers (which may or may not end up being a legitimate >> place to put such a file...). In this file, you have these records: >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.foothillstrading.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.michaeltyler.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.fennel.net. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.ultimateweavers.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.ultimatefurniture.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.gacapitolassociates.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR taoist.higherpowered.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.higherpowered.com. >> >> This is counterproductive, as you discovered with MacTCP Watcher - it >> gave you an essentially randomly chosen record from this set. To >> solve this, if your server ends up legitimately authoritative for >> your reverse zone, you'll pick one of these records and delete the >> rest. > > the next went over my head, but I'll send it off to my isp and assume they > understand :) > >> Your reverse records are currently broken. Here's the problem: >> >> f.root-servers.net says this: >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns1-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns2-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns3-auth.sprintlink.net. >> >> ns1-auth.sprintlink.net says this: >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS icm1.icp.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns1-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns2-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns3-auth.sprintlink.net. >> The host or domain "125.1.208.in-addr.arpa." does not exist >> The host or domain "162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa." does not exist >> >> Talk to your ISP about this. Once you figure out who will eventually >> have control over 125.1.208.in-addr.arpa, you can start thinking >> about actual PTR records. >> > Again, thanks for the help! > > Jim > > > > >> >> At 1:01 PM -0800 12/19/99, Higher Powered wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm also having this same problem- I get the "Circular delivery problems" >>> in my mail logs. I cannot send nor receive mail from any domain. I have >>> the domains set up in web*4.1 mail, the same machine as my web server and >>> dns for now. >>> >>> I have everything else working fine (and hopefully set up correctly). >>> >>> Now I'm setting up a new mail server and trying to change the dns records to >>> work properly. As far as I can tell, they are set up right, but mail is >>> neither sending nor receiving. A couple of the domains set up are: >>> fennel.net >>> foothillstrading.com >> >> There are a few problems here: >> >> 1) Your secondary server is not responding (taoist2.higherpowered.com). >> 2) Your primary server is giving non-authoritative responses when >> queried for fennel.net. >> 3) You left a period off of the end of this record: >> foothillstrading.com. MX 20 >> postal2.higherpowered.com.foothillstrading.com. >> >>> I also didn't get anything returned when I did an mx lookup for these >>> domains using dig... >> >> Interesting... You have two MX records in the foothillstrading.com >> domain. Remember to use the @server option with dig. >> >>> Here's what my mail server says: >>> >>> ERROR! SMTP Out: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:45:58 -0800 ID=264 SMTP relay. Mail >>> delivery error ( Circular delivery attempt) To: >>> webmaster@higherpowered.com From: info@foothillstr... >>> SMTP In: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 12:46:06 -0800 disconnect from >>> www.harrispainthorses.com [208.1.125.162] >> >> This indicates that the web server doesn't know it's supposed to >> accept mail for higherpowered.com. Configure this in your mail server >> preferences. Aside from the above three problems (and the notes about >> reverse records, below), your DNS is fine. >> >>> Also, Im running web*4.1 as a virtual server. When I do a reverse lookup by >>> ip address (208.1.125.162) how can I have this return the address of >>> higherpowered.com? >> >> Your reverse records are currently broken. Here's the problem: >> >> f.root-servers.net says this: >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns1-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns2-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns3-auth.sprintlink.net. >> >> ns1-auth.sprintlink.net says this: >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS icm1.icp.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns1-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns2-auth.sprintlink.net. >> 1.208.in-addr.arpa. NS ns3-auth.sprintlink.net. >> The host or domain "125.1.208.in-addr.arpa." does not exist >> The host or domain "162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa." does not exist >> >> Talk to your ISP about this. Once you figure out who will eventually >> have control over 125.1.208.in-addr.arpa, you can start thinking >> about actual PTR records. >> >>> I have multiple dns records for different domains pointing to this ip >>> address. when I do a dns lookup for this ip with mactcp watcher I get: >>> www.ultimatefurniture.com returned as the name- this is one of the virtual >>> domains. >> >> The reason for this is that you have configured a reverse zone file >> on your own servers (which may or may not end up being a legitimate >> place to put such a file...). In this file, you have these records: >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.foothillstrading.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.michaeltyler.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.fennel.net. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.ultimateweavers.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.ultimatefurniture.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.gacapitolassociates.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR taoist.higherpowered.com. >> 162.125.1.208.in-addr.arpa. PTR www.higherpowered.com. >> >> This is counterproductive, as you discovered with MacTCP Watcher - it >> gave you an essentially randomly chosen record from this set. To >> solve this, if your server ends up legitimately authoritative for >> your reverse zone, you'll pick one of these records and delete the >> rest. >> >> Whichever one it is, it should match whatever your mail server is >> using for its true name (see below). >> >>> also notice where it says "disconnect from www.harrispainthorses.com" How do >>> I get rid of this? Where is it picking this up from?(also another dns >>> record) >> >> Your mail server has decided that its true name is >> www.harrispainthorses.com. Here's its initial greeting (read from >> telnetting to port 25): >> >> 220 www.harrispainthorses.com WebSTAR Mail Simple Mail Transfer Service Ready >> >> There should be a setting for this somewhere in your mail settings. >> Sorry, but I'm not using WebSTAR Mail for anything, so I can't tell >> you which setting to change. >> >>> If I do a trace route I get www.higherpowered.com >>> >>> why does dns lookup not return taoist.higherpowered.com? >> >> Again, you get randomly chosen records from the list above. Each >> time, it'll be different. >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Chris Buxton cbuxton@menandmice.com >> Men & Mice http://www.menandmice.com >> Makers of: QuickDNS Pro

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