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Re: Resolving Multiple DomainsFrom: Men & Mice Support Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000
Time: 9:17:00 pmAt 12:53 PM -0500 2/17/2000, Jim Ludwig wrote:
>Chris,
>Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways! I knew things were screwy,
>but I am not, (if you hadn't already guessed) a DNS guru. I went through
>and made a gob of changes to my DNS records, adding the . at the end of the
>records. I just didn't know that I was supposed to do that! chcnova.com is
>actually one of my clients, but I use the Domain Assistant and must've
>forgotten to uncheck, 'create reverse records auto-magically'.
>
>I do know that what I have is VERY ugly, and that was the reason I wanted to
>clean it up. I am not in the habit of letting things get so weird, but we
>have a 9 month old and he has pulled all of my time away from being a
>computer geek ;-). If you would, could you tell me what I should have my
>ISP do to make the records match and be correct?
To do that, I'd need to know what range of IP addresses you have, preferably using subnet notation (as in 209.183.206.216/29). Because in reality, the method your ISP decided to try to use really doesn't work well.
>I was looking through my zone files and found that there are several PTR
>records in my reverse domain files. Should those be there?
I don't understand the question. Your reverse zone files should have PTR records and NS records, with nothing else. You shouldn't have multiple PTR records for any given IP address.
>Also, I have a
>zone file that reads:
>
>205.183.209.in-addr.arpa
>
>What is that?
That's one of those reverse zone files automatically created by the Domain Assistant, because you created an A record for dns1.atlantech.net.chcnova.com.
Remove this file.
>Thanks for ALL of the help! You guys are great!
>
>Jim Ludwig
>
>
>
>> From: Men & Mice Support <cbuxton@menandmice.com>
>> Reply-To: "QuickDNS Talk" <quickdns-talk@lists.menandmice.com>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:49:02 -0800
>> To: "QuickDNS Talk" <quickdns-talk@lists.menandmice.com>
>> Subject: Re: Resolving Multiple Domains
>>
>> At 9:30 PM -0500 2/16/2000, Jim Ludwig wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I have a small web hosting business running on Macs. I use QuickDNS and DNS
>>> Expert and love both. My question is actually more along the lines of how
>>> to. Here it is. I have multiple DNS entries pointing at only 2 different
>>> IP addresses. When I pull up EIMS, it does a reverse lookup and tells me
>>> that the found name is one of the other domain names that I host.
>>> Everything still seems to work, but it bothers me that I can't seem to
>>> figure out how to create new zones properly. They work, but they aren't
>>> pretty. I hope this doesn't just seem like rambling and that someone has
>>> some ideas.
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Your reverse record for 209.183.206.219, frankly, looks pretty messy.
>>
>> The class C subnet is delegated to your ISP directly from the root
>> servers, as follows:
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS dns1.atlantech.net.
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS dns2.atlantech.net.
>>
>> After that, things get muddy. Here's what dns1.atlantech.net says:
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS host2.atlantech.net.
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS host3.atlantech.net.
>> 219.206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS dns.interrupt9.com.
>> 219.206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. PTR dns.interrupt9.com.chcnova.com.
>>
>> Those last two records look really screwy. The third record is an
>> unrecommended way to delegate an individual IP address - it's a
>> method mentioned in RFC 2317 as something that generally shouldn't be
>> done.
>>
>> The fourth record, though, is just plain wrong-looking.
>>
>> I queried your server (as indicated by the NS record), and it said:
>> 219.206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. PTR dns.interrupt9.com.chcnova.com.
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS dns.interrupt9.com.chcnova.com.
>> 206.183.209.in-addr.arpa. NS dns1.atlantech.net.chcnova.com.
>> dns.interrupt9.com.chcnova.com. A 209.183.206.219
>> dns1.atlantech.net.chcnova.com. A 209.183.205.35
>>
>> So dns1.atlantech.net doesn't agree with your server. This means that
>> they didn't even implement the unrecommended procedure correctly.
>> Very bad.
>>
>> Furthermore, all your names end in chcnova.com - ???
>>
>> I queried your server for chcnova.com, and got this:
>> chcnova.com. NS dns.interrupt9.com.chcnova.com.
>> chcnova.com. NS dns1.atlantech.net.chcnova.com.
>>
>> Put a period on the end, after "dns.interrupt9.com", to get rid of
>> the extra "chcnova.com.". Same with "dns1.atlantech.net.".
>>
>> Then edit your version of the reverse zone. Then tell your ISP to fix
>> their version of the reverse zone - remove the PTR record. Or, they
>> can reread RFC 2317 and use the procedure recommended there, which
>> would involve a few minor changes to their records and yours.
>>
>> Lastly: Change the PTR record to report the name you want EIMS to use.
>>
>> BTW: As you said, what you have works. It's pretty ugly, but it
>> works. If you don't feel the need to fix it, everything will continue
>> to work.
>> ____________________________________________________________________
>> Chris Buxton cbuxton@menandmice.com
>> Men & Mice http://www.menandmice.com
>> Makers of: QuickDNS Pro
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