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In a message dated 3/16/01 1:59:04 PM, "Jay Menna" <jay@snakefeet.com> wrote:
snakefeet.com (was Newbee Question)
From: JWBaumann@aol.com
Date: Friday, March 16, 2001
Time: 10:52:14 pm
>I have had snakefeet.com running on QuickDNS for a year.
Good move.
>I was using a few friends as secondary servers. They were all unix geeks.
>I'm not sure what they were running. I do not know the status of the
>secondary servers at this time.
Bad move. The not knowing part, not the Unix or friends part.
>A few days ago I set up an a record for crouse.snakefeet.com. Half of the
>world was able to see it but lots of other people could not.
I was in the blind half when I started poking around, but not now, although
I'm not sure why.
>So I got the name servers changed to new secondary servers (all QuickDNS)
This is what I got from Network Solutions as of Friday March 16, 2001 11pm
Central time:
TOASTER.SNAKEFEET.COM 64.123.3.98
STIINC.COM 64.123.3.99
DUCKY.SNAKEFEET.COM 209.198.141.180
It feels wrong to use a raw domain name (stiinc.com) for a name server.
>I set up the DNS on all the secondary servers manually. SO I could be sure
>it was there.
Uh oh. What do you mean by "manually?" Did you create separate, independent
SOA (Start Of Authority) records on each server, making each of them a
primary unto themselves? If so, bad move; harder to maintain, more chance of
error.
Getting into Telnet, here's what I get:
dig @toaster.snakefeet.com crouse.snakefeet.com A
yields
;; ANSWER SECTION:
crouse.snakefeet.com. 2h23m20s IN A 64.245.49.53
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
snakefeet.com. 2h23m20s IN NS ns2.snakefeet.com.
snakefeet.com. 2h23m20s IN NS ns1.snakefeet.com.
Hmmm..... Where do ns1.snakefeet.com and ns2.snakefeet.com figure in here?
Doing lookups with Interarchy I get this:
ns1.snakefeet.com 209.127.6.128 (Huh? Who/where is this?)
ns2.snakefeet.com 64.123.3.99 (hey, this is stiinc.com)
Are you not telling NetSol about your real primary name server
(ns1.snakefeet.com)? That's fine, just want to verify. And why use stiinc.com
rather than ns2.snakefeet.com?
dig @stiinc.com crouse.snakefeet.com A
yields (complete response, since I don't really know what everything means)
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> @stiinc.com crouse.snakefeet.com A
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;; crouse.snakefeet.com, type = A, class = IN
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
snakefeet.com. 2h24m IN SOA ns1.snakefeet.com.
jay.snakefeet.com. (
2000110801 ; serial
8H ; refresh
2H ; retry
1W ; expiry
1D ) ; minimum
;; Total query time: 186 msec
;; FROM: wind.goldengate.net to SERVER: stiinc.com 64.123.3.99
;; WHEN: Sat Mar 17 00:11:07 2001
;; MSG SIZE sent: 38 rcvd: 82
It seems like stiinc.com (AKA ns2.snakefeet.com) doesn't know about
crouse.snakefeet.com, even though it knows about ns1.snakefeet.com.
dig @ducky.snakefeet.com crouse.snakefeet.com A
yields
; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> @ducky.snakefeet.com crouse.snakefeet.com A
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3
;; QUERY SECTION:
;; crouse.snakefeet.com, type = A, class = IN
;; ANSWER SECTION:
crouse.snakefeet.com. 1h52m43s IN A 64.245.49.53
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
SNAKEFEET.COM. 11h18m14s IN NS STIINC.COM.
SNAKEFEET.COM. 11h18m14s IN NS TOASTER.SNAKEFEET.COM.
SNAKEFEET.COM. 11h18m14s IN NS DUCKY.SNAKEFEET.COM.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
stiinc.com. 11h18m13s IN A 64.123.3.99
toaster.snakefeet.com. 11h18m13s IN A 64.123.3.98
ducky.snakefeet.com. 11h18m13s IN A 209.198.141.180
;; Total query time: 89 msec
;; FROM: wind.goldengate.net to SERVER: ducky.snakefeet.com
209.198.141.180
;; WHEN: Sat Mar 17 00:06:21 2001
;; MSG SIZE sent: 38 rcvd: 199
Hey! Ducky knows about the name servers as set in NetSol's database! Where
did ducky find this info? Not from ns1.snakefeet.com, not from
toaster.snakefeet.com, and not from stiinc.com. Hmm? Which name server is
actually the master and which are the slaves? All 3 name servers which you
have listed with NetSol give different answers.
I'm sure others can offer further analysis, but I think you need to get clear
on which is your primary name server and which are the secondary servers
which get their information from the primary. Read up on setting up a
secondary name server (it's not too hard).
>Still some of the world could not see it. So I thought it must be stuck in
>a bunch of Cache files all over the place, Give it time and it will work
>itself out. It have been a week and it has not worked itself out.
No, I think each name server is serving different information.
>What is generally the problem when part of the world can resolve DNS and the
>other part can't? Is this my problem?
There can be many reasons. Cached data, misconfigured name servers,
misdirected queries, old but live records. In this case, it seems like your
problem is multiple primary name servers with different data.
Another point. I notice you are listed as the admin, billing, and technical
contact for snakefeet.com, and your email address with them is a
snakefeet.com address. I suggest at least one person as a contact with an
email address in a different domain, because domain problems have been known
to bring down one's email.
Good luck.
Jeff Baumann
jwbaumann@aol.com
www.linkedresources.com
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