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Re: Failed to Lookup SOA

From: Mia''s Virtual Post Office
Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2001
Time: 4:27:15 am

Men & Mice Support said:

>At 5:59 PM -0500 5/29/01, Mia's Virtual Post Office wrote:
>>How come my secondary has a bunch of "Failed to lookup SOA" errors? I
>>notice this for every domain the primary has.. Any ideas?
>
>Think about this: What happens when your slave (secondary) server starts up?
>
>- Initialize memory.
>- Load any master zones.
>- Load cached slave zones.
>- Check master server(s) of slave zones for new versions.

Understood...
>
>It does that last step for all of them at once. It expects a snappy
>answer from the master server. If the answer doesn't come quickly
>enough, some number of these checks will fail. The server will then
>retry those zones at the designated retry interval.

So what you are telling me then, is that QDNS is not robust enough to
handle this?
>
>If you have 900 - 1000 zones, as I recall you having, this amounts to
>a denial-of-service attack against the master server. There's not
>much you can do about this. (Bind behaves in the same way, I believe.)

Yes we are back over 1000 on this box again. Not sure if I agree on the
BIND end, but I have not seen that happen as of yet, so I cannot be sure.
>
>The real problem is, when all those failures get retried, you get a
>(somewhat smaller) denial of service attack again. If 100 of them
>succeed each time, by the time the 4th retry interval comes around,
>you may still have 500 zones in failure mode. With the default
>refresh and retry intervals (8 hours and 2 hours), this is also when
>those first 100 successful zones are also retried.

Then this could perhaps explain our periodic crashes? Hopefully I will
get some time to get QDNS updated to 3.5 here, and we shall see what
differences if any we experience.
>

thanx again!

jer (jer@mia.net)

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