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Re: Off topic Dial up equipment

From: Rudy Komsic
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2001
Time: 7:05:33 am

Understandable, however, the old PRI T1 cards did exactly that and =
worked without problems. However, I did not try the T3 Ingress card but =
it should be along the same concept as the old PRI/T1 Cards. If you do =
select this method, I would highly recommend having your T3 CLEC to do =
DS0 line round robin to ensure that you would not have any stuck lines =
and clients calling you not being able to log in.

Anyways, If you are planning to spend $125-200k for a solution like =
this, I would recommend getting a 2-3 month trial/return period signed =
with the purchaser. This way, if the equipment is not up to par to what =
you need or is not performing accordingly, then you would have the =
option to return it. If the vendor does not want to offer this type of =
service extension, then find another vendor that will and has the =
several flavors of hardware mentioned by Jon and mbailey.

Would you buy a car without test driving it first? Never... Would you =
spend $500k on a new house without closely inspecting it? Not on your =
life... well this should be no different.

PS: Don't forget to ask for '911 Caller ID'. It will always show the =
dialed-in client's phone number even though they say to block it. ISPs =
are allowed to get this service cause it might be needed for National =
Security and cases when the Feds service a court order concerning this =
IP at this time who gave the ISP falsified information... The phone =
number will always reveal where they are located.
PSS: Also great to tracking hacked accounts and sending them invoices =
for illegal network usage. =20


> -----Original Message-----
> From: isp-list@optigold.com [mailto:isp-list@optigold.com]On Behalf Of
> Jon Hiller
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:13 AM
> To: Optigold ISP List
> Subject: Re: [Optigold ISP] Off topic Dial up equipment
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> I'm aware of the Card Set, but if you read further into it's=20
> specs and speak
> to any telco field engineer, they'll recommend against that type of
> setup........
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> Even the ariel systems provide line stats like that in real =
time......Most
> major chassis' have all sorts of troubleshooting and such.....and have =
GUI
> interfaces for them, and the nortel does as well.
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> And in reality, Nortel (which isn't originally nortels box)=20
> includes support
> for a year and 24 hour replacement standard.
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> Not necessarily a nortel fan, but I had enough of paying for updates =
with
> 3com in addition to the PRI Cards not being flexible with signaling.
> Basically the nortel more features, larger capacity per shelf, and =
faster
> for the same or less. Plus you have an easy migration to DSL or=20
> to plug in
> SS7 switching. And it holds more calls.......
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> > Actually, The TC1000 has a DS-3 Ingress Card Set. Here is the=20
> link where you
> > can read up on it.
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> http://www.commworks.com/svprovider/products/rac2/pdf/tc1000edsds_
> 06_01.pdf
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> > Anyways, I would recommend TC chassis over any other cause of the =
extra
> > diagnostic features these chassis can offer. If a client is=20
> having difficulty
> > with obtaining V.90 or V.92 speeds, all you need to load up the=20
> TCM and can
> > view the line stats (SNR, Frequency Probe, etc.) all in real=20
> time. NorTel has
> > always had poor support and no accessible documentation unless=20
> you pay for
> > their expensive support contracts.
> >=20
> > We use 5 TC Chassis (quad cards still) and never had any=20
> problems with it
> > (other that the quarterly ritual cleaning of our chassis which=20
> we prefer doing
> > to ensure longivity). Plus, you can hotswap the cards, clean=20
> them, and just
> > reinsert them back in without any problems. I would suggest to=20
> max out the
> > chassis with modem cards and get 1 spare incase it is a busy=20
> chassis. This
> > way should you need a quick replacement, it is there, should=20
> you need to do
> > your ritual cleaning, you got a spare to take its place=20
> minimizing downtime.
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isp-list@optigold.com [mailto:isp-list@optigold.com]On Behalf =
Of
> >> Jon Hiller
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:08 AM
> >> To: Optigold ISP List
> >> Subject: Re: [Optigold ISP] Off topic Dial up equipment
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>> I did ask Shawn before I posted this. We are currently looking
> >> at new dial
> >>> up equipment. The equipment we are looking at is the 3COM
> >> TC1000. We use a
> >>> channelized DS3 using all 28 pri's with our current equipment.
> >> The question
> >>> is: Is anyone else using this equipment and what are the good and =
bad
> >>> points. I am not looking for a flame war just good info to be used =
for
> >>> buying decisions.
> >>>=20
> >>> Thanks to all who respond.
> >>>=20
> >>> Bennie
> >>=20
> >> '
> >> The TC1000 doesn't support T3. The TC2000 does, but isn't=20
> shipping unless
> >> you buy a palette direct from 3com. 3COM may suggest using a
> >> device to take
> >> t1s off the t3 to the TC1000...This is not recommended.
> >>=20
> >> You may want to contact Nortel about their CVX 1800 and=20
> 600..... The speed
> >> of the unit (backplane) is better than the 3COM and it handles
> >> all types of
> >> lines. When I priced out the 1800 for purchase with 300 ports,
> >> Nortel gave
> >> me $177 a port...... Although I'm sure things have changed a bit. =
But
> >> definitely worth looking into. If you have questions, I may be =
able to
> >> answer, you can email me privately.
> >>=20
> >> Jon
> >>=20
> >>=20
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