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Re: Re: BEWARE - Do Not Use Optigold - DISHONESTLIARS
From: InterCape
Date: Thursday, October 10, 2002
Time: 8:34:35 pm
(sorry all for adding to this thread.. I could not help it)
Mr "BurstNET Technologies, Inc President - C.E.O". ... I know what your=
strategy is.
You are too lazy or disorganized to write a simple paragraph to meet their=
very lax contract conditions so instead you will yell and and scream=
bloody murder until you get your way. You hope to be such a nuisance to=
everyone that DigitalPoint just caves and gives in to you. Your methods=
are that of a pathetic idiot and they are completely transparent to me.
You like to trumpet to the world that you are "President" and "CEO" ...for=
the sake of your own grief *please* act like one. Your behavior reveals=
the whole story. You are the problem here and it is obvious to me and=
probably everyone on this list. Conform to their conditions and you will=
get your money back ! Do you know what the word principals means? I really=
hope Digital Point does not cave in to your childish tantrums.
Oh and by the way.. I'm not a lawyer but I doubt statements admitting=
slander like this below would earn you favor with a judge - if it ever=
came down to that. A matter of fact if I was a lawyer I would be emailing=
Shawn privately while printing this out with the full message headers.
> Getting our money's worth by defacing their company is our last=
resort....
What will you say in response to this? Will you assail my character? Will=
you make all sorts of threats? Go for it and waste your life. If I were=
you I would write out a one paragraph explanation, apologize, and politely=
ask them to bend their posted policies and send you a refund. Then send=
them a thank you note for bending the rules. That would be what a real CEO=
would do. Right now you are just being a jerk and generally making people=
angry. Is that in line with your goals?? What kind of "CEO" are you??? If=
you have half a clue you will learn to be more reasonable from this.
> I am not denying I am an a**hole.
Good and I am sure everyone agree's. You need to go away and fix this=
personal problem of yours. This type behaviour is NEVER justified.
So please take your rantings and slander attempts elsewhere. This is a list=
for people that use Optigold not a list for you to slander Digital Point.=
Go setup Plat.
BTW Have fun spending tons of money and time on Platypus and MS SQL.
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
On 10/10/2002 at 10:17 PM BurstNET Technologies, Inc President - C.E.O.=
wrote:
>At 10:03 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>It's assholes like you that give capitalism a bad name.
>>
>>And if you're sooooo big, why did you only need a minimum customer
>license?
>
>We bought it for testing phase, once we liked the product we would have
>bought the necessary licensing.
>Needless to say, we never got that far with it....
>
>
>>And you did NOT write CPanel. You distribute CPanel. So you don't even
>>know what your own company does. DarkORB wrote CPanel. Do you spout
>utter
>>bullshit everywhere you go?
>
>Genius...do you now who DarkOrb is? J.Nick Koston....
>Do you know who our CTO is? J.Nick Koston....
>Do you know who found the Optigold software a complete security risk, and
>refused to install it? J.Nick Koston....
>
>Anything else you want to call me a liar about that I can prove otherwise?
>
>SMA
>PRES/CEO
>BURSTNET
>
>
>>You've denigrated yourself sufficiently that I feel safe in speaking for
>the
>>other members of this list when I say we can all laugh at your posts
>without
>>apprehension.
>>
>>Jonathan Hassell
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "BurstNET Technologies, Inc President - C.E.O."
><president@burst.net>
>>To: "Optigold ISP List" <isp-list@optigold.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Optigold ISP] Re: BEWARE - Do Not Use Optigold -
>>DISHONESTLIARS
>>
>>
>>> At 08:56 PM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>> >Obviously Burstnet must pay you too much money if you have time to
>waste
>>on
>>> >what has to be pennies.. And the only way opti is insecure is in how
>you
>>> >setup your network.. Ever heard of a firewall? Obviously not...
>>>
>>> a firewall would not clear up all security issues with their software.
>>> We tried that...
>>> "Using a firewall" was he only response they could give us too to our
>>> security inquiries...
>>> Optigold wasn't very concerned when our CTOP explained major security
>>> hazards of their product on the phone months ago to them.
>>>
>>> >I am most amuzed at how you try to deface a company.. You know you are
>>> >entitled to your opinion but if you wanted to get somewhere maybe
>acting
>>> >civilized might get you a useful response.
>>>
>>> Civilized?
>>> We patiently waitied 6 months for them to honor their RMA...
>>> How much more civilized do we need to be?
>>> Getting our money's worth by defacing their company is our last
>resort....
>>> And believe me, not at all what we want to do.
>>> We just want our refund, as was promised and begun...and then we'll go
>>away.
>>>
>>> >I don't know but it looks like your nothing but a little cry baby...
>>>
>>> No, I am just out to get our money's worth from them...whether we get
>the
>>> refund or not we'll get our money's worth in business/reputation loss=
we
>>> will cause them.
>>>
>>> >You had no clue on how to set up something so complicated you got
>>frustrated
>>> >and went to a less featureful piece of software..
>>>
>>> No clue how to set up something so complicated?
>>> Jeez...you really don't know who we are do you?
>>> Our tech people here wrote CPANEL....one of the most complicated pieces
>of
>>> software in the hosting market today.
>>> CPanel is one of the top 4 server automation tools, along with Plesk,
>>> Ensim, & Sphera....
>>> I think we know what we are talking about!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >Just fyi go find a corner and curl up and die please!!!
>>>
>>> Mid your own business...
>>> maybe you'll get ripped of by Optigold too..and see how much you like
>it,
>>> and what you do...
>>> Guaranteed you curl up and die in a corner.
>>> Not us buddy...we'll get even.......at the very least...
>>>
>>> Heck, I'll even go as far as to buy a plane ticket and fly out there
>just
>>> to tell all his neighbors if I have to.
>>> I have no limit to how much aggravation I will put this company thru to
>>get
>>> justice.
>>>
>>> SMA
>>> PRES/CEO
>>> BURSTNET
>>>
>>>
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "BurstNET Technologies, Inc President - C.E.O."
>><president@burst.net>
>>> >To: "Optigold ISP List" <isp-list@optigold.com>
>>> >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:56 PM
>>> >Subject: Re: [Optigold ISP] Re: BEWARE - Do Not Use Optigold -
>>> >DISHONESTLIARS
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> At 03:16 PM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>> >> >BurstNET Technologies, Inc President - C.E.O. wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Instead of responding like this, why don't you tell your users why
>you
>>> >> won't honor our RMA?
>>> >> You look like a moron to your clients responding like this rather
>than
>>> >> addressing our claim.
>>> >>
>>> >> Obviouly you agree you are a thief!
>>> >>
>>> >> SMA
>>> >> PRES/CEO
>>> >> BURSTNET
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >> Darn...the BBB Complaint Form is offline for 24 hours.....
>>> >> >> http://www.bbb.org/bbbcomplaints/Welcome.asp
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Moving right along.....I'll come back to that one later...
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Let's see...things to get done over the next few days, "at
>>Optigold's
>>> >> >> request":
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 1) Contact your merchant account processor
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Bank of America merchant services: 800-228-5882
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> 2) Write a letter to every person at your bank I can find.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I don't have a specific phone number, but it's Bank of America.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> 3) Contact the USPS for Mail Fraud, since we did receive a=
receipt
>>in
>>> >the
>>> >> >> US Mail, and manuals were shipped both ways.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Can't help with that one.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> That should keep my busy with the basics.
>>> >> >> I'm sure I can thing of even more things to keep me busy for
>another
>>> >week
>>> >> >> or to on this, before I even have try to get creative.
>>> >> >> I have virtually unlimited funds, resources, and contacts to
>handle
>>> >this
>>> >> >> matter....so this should be fun ruining your company.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Sounds good, if you need any other info, let me know.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > - Shawn
>>> >> >
>>> >> >-------------------------------
>>> >> >Shawn D. Hogan
>>> >> >President, Digital Point Solutions
>>> >> >http://www.digitalpoint.com
>>> >> >(858) 452-3696
>>> >> >
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