Search Again: Re: Need a recommendation From: Mia''s Virtual Post Office Date: Saturday, April 5, 2003 Time: 12:22:58 pm On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Brian Blood wrote: > Mia's Virtual Post Office wrote on 4/5/2003 1:13 PM > >> >> I'd go the tower route and find a colo that does not charge per U, but >> charges based on: >> >> 1. Bandwidth >> 2. Power >> 3. Space > > > How is charging for space different than charging per U? I think you did not read the next line after that that said "all rolled into one". ie., space/power/bw one flat price point. Of course we've got limitations, ie., a AS400 sized machine is not going to fall under our typical pricing structure. I guess what I am trying to indicate is that we are not overly concerned with physical space as it is a given that a server will take up a certain amount of space. Charging extra for that estate buys no added value for the colo customer. Besides, the Xserve as a for instance takes up only 1U of space, but eats more energy then 2 G4 towers and gives off more heat which needs to be dealt with than those two G4 towers. The physical space is nothing in the overall scheme of things. > > Space utilization is rolled into your single price colo packages as a > flat fee of some sort. Which is a good deal if you have big boxes. No, it's a good deal if you want to be paying for bandwidth, power, remote hands and great support. > > If someone has a 1U box, they are going to pay less for colo and 40GB > of > transfer with us as our space charges are broken out. > Not necessarily. Again, like I said, real estate is the cheapest part of colo. BW/Power, UPS, A/C, etc., is where the costs are. We are simply conveying the value in terms of price to the customer by providing them bw/power, etc. space is the lowest part of the equation. > >> All rolled into one. Real estate is the cheapest part of the equation >> in the colo business and given the current state of the economy for >> several years there is plenty of it available. > > > Real estate costs are relative to the facility you are considering. Exactly, but then again we are not in an empty over built 2 million square foot facility either. In these cases you are paying for space you will never use to offset the lack of filled space. > > It still costs something to keep the lights on and the generators > tested > and the guards paid. > > Sure it does, and we charge accordingly to cover those costs. However I am not going to slap another "x" $ fee on customers because they use 1" more of air. There is no value to the customer in space. The value is in the services you can derive from the space you occupy. If I were on the East/West Coast I suppose things might be different. Like you said, it's all relative. Regards, Jeremy Anthony Kinsey e-mail: jer@mia.net ________________________________________________________ Bella Mia, Inc. www.mia.net 401 Host Drive www.dslone.com Lake Geneva, WI. 53147 www.hostdrive.com Phone: (262)248-6759 www.bella-mia.com Fax: (262)248-6959

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