Search Again: Re: Zones on secondary have gone missing... From: Men & Mice Support Date: Thursday, May 1, 2003 Time: 3:34:07 pm "unloaded" means that it was removed from memory. In this case, it probably means that the file QuickDNS Data:Secondary Domains was altered, either by a human or by a file or disk corruption. Since all your enabled slave zones were deleted but the disabled zone was untouched, I would venture to guess that the entire Secondary Domains file was replaced by a blank version - the disabled zone's settings were stored in a separate file (Secondary Domains (disabled)) while that zone was disabled. Check your hard drive for corruption, just in case that was it. I suggest Disk First Aid and/or Disk Warrior. ____________________________________________________________________ Chris Buxton Men & Mice support@menandmice.com Making DNS Easy At 4:35 PM -0500 5/1/03, Jeff Justice wrote: >The log shows on April 13 at 10:19:47 all of the zones in question >were unloaded at the same exact time/date stamp. So what does that >indicate? What does "unloading" really mean? Does it mean deleted, >and if so, how is that possible? I don't believe you can select a >list of zones and delete them en masse. > >The one zone on the slave is now showing correctly. Thank you. > >Jeff J. > > >On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 04:24 PM, Men & Mice Support wrote: > >>At 4:11 PM -0500 5/1/03, Jeff Justice wrote: >>>>>How would one configure a master zone to NOT be duplicated on the slave? >>>> >>>>When the zone was created, either you're not connected to ns2, or >>>>else you unchecked ns2 in the new zone dialog. Or after the zone >>>>was created, it was deleted from ns2. >>> >>>Okay. So, were back to square one. The zones either disappeared >>>by themselves from the secondary, OR someone deleted them. Trust >>>me, I would know if I'd deleted 17 zones, so I'm sure it wasn't >>>me. Should I be able to find some record in the logs of where >>>these zone went, who may or may not have been logged into the >>>server etc? There has to be an explanation somewhere. >> >>You might be able to find when the zones were unloaded, shown in >>the log. Otherwise, no. >> >>Starting with QuickDNS 4.0, QuickDNS Central maintains a zone >>history for each zone. I'm not sure if it records zone deletion, >>though. >> >>>>>Here's another note, when I double-click on the one zone that >>>>>does show up on the slave, to bring up the zone details, it >>>>>starts to come up, then gives me a dialog that says something >>>>>like "Could not open the slave zone "elvinsrefrigeration.com." >>>>>from the server ns2.starionhost.net.", probably because the zone >>>>>data has not been transferred from the..." and it is cut off >>>>>from there. >>>> >>>>That indicates that the zone was never transferred (via zone >>>>transfer) from the master server. This could happen if, for >>>>example, the zone is also disabled on the master server. >>> >>>The zone IS enabled on the master server. It is not updating the >>>slave. It WAS disabled, but has been enabled now for more than an >>>hour. The slave still shows it as disabled. Again, appears as if >>>the slave is not updating. >> >>Enable it on the slave as well, and then see (in the slave server's >>log) whether it transfers the zone from the master server. You >>shouldn't have to wait for more than a few minutes to see how it >>reacts to having the zone enabled. >>____________________________________________________________________ >>Chris Buxton Men & Mice >>support@menandmice.com Making DNS Easy >> >>>>>On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 03:17 PM, Men & Mice Support wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Yes, it is odd. What operating system are you using for the >>>>>>slave server? When was the last time the disk was checked for >>>>>>errors? >>>>>> >>>>>>Aside from computer error, the only explanation that comes to >>>>>>mind is operator error. Has anyone besides yourself had the >>>>>>password? >>>>>> >>>>>>The fact that zones still exist on the master server doesn't >>>>>>mean that the slave server should also be configured for all of >>>>>>them. While QuickDNS makes it easy to manage two servers >>>>>>together, and create zones on both servers at the same time, >>>>>>you can also use it otherwise. QuickDNS doesn't actively keep a >>>>>>slave server up to date with a master server with regard to the >>>>>>list of zones hosted on the two servers. (Zone contents >>>>>>themselves should be kept up to date - when a zone changes on >>>>>>the master server, the slave server should get the update in >>>>>>short order.) >>>>>>____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>Chris Buxton Men & Mice >>>>>>support@menandmice.com Making DNS Easy >>>>>> >>>>>>At 3:01 PM -0500 5/1/03, Jeff Justice wrote: >>>>>>>I guess I don't understand why this happened at all. They >>>>>>>used to be there. I haven't changed anything, and wouldn't >>>>>>>the fact that they ARE set up in the primary mean they should >>>>>>>be showing up in the secondary? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jeff J. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Men & Mice Support wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's not just that the slave server isn't updating; from what >>>>>>>>you say, the slave server is not (or no longer) set up for >>>>>>>>these zones at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What version of QuickDNS are you using? Version 3.5 and later >>>>>>>>have an AppleScript (included with the Mac version of >>>>>>>>QuickDNS Manager) called "Add Slave Server" that will fix >>>>>>>>this problem for you. >>>>>>>>____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Chris Buxton Men & Mice >>>>>>>>support@menandmice.com Making DNS Easy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>At 1:28 PM -0500 5/1/03, Jeff Justice wrote: >>>>>>>>>I have two servers, primary, secondary. I don't have much >>>>>>>>>need to look at them often as QuickDNS just WORKS (99.9% of >>>>>>>>>the time :) ). However, today, I opened up my primary and >>>>>>>>>secondary to add a new domain, and all of the zones, except >>>>>>>>>one disabled zone I had, are gone from the secondary. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Nothing has changed with the setup in months. I can ping >>>>>>>>>the secondary, and the primary. I have rebooted the machine >>>>>>>>>that the secondary is on. It appears that the secondary is >>>>>>>>>not updating. Any ideas what has happened? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jeff J.

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