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Should be dnsreport.com
From: Mia''s Virtual Post Office
Date: Monday, December 22, 2003
Time: 4:10:21 pm
On Dec 22, 2003, at 1:20 PM, Michael Wise wrote:
> At 12:36 PM -0600 12/22/03, Len Conrad wrote:
>
>>> "WARN
>>> Glue at parent nameservers
>>> WARNING. The parent servers (TLD2.ULTRADNS.NET.) are not providing
>>> glue for all your nameservers.
>>
>> ... simply because they don't have, perfectly correctly, the frigging
>> glue, and never will have. Nothing's broken, nothing's to fix,
>> neither the TLD NS, nor in your DNSs, nor in your domain delegations
>> or host registration. That's how DNS delegation, and host
>> registration, works.
>
>
> And dnsreport is not saying anything is broken or needs to be fixed.
But to those who are not savvy at DNS and or do not have a good
understanding of DNS it is extremely misleading and does appear to the
untrained to be a problem, a failure, broken, whatever.. I get a lot of
questions from users of dnsreport.com asking about this and other
"Warn" messages at that site.
>
>
>
>>> Anyone care to comment on this?
>>
>> I had a big thread with the DNSReport guy about DNS Report sending
>> people off on wild goose chases into many lists, like the one you're
>> on, trying to fix or solve the unbroken. His report comments are
>> simply wrong at worst, and are misleading, confusing logorrhea at
>> best.
>
> You said that a few months ago, and you're saying it again now. I
> asked you for supporting evidence then (which you did not provide).
> Should I bother asking again?
What evidence do you need? Why do I or anyone for that matter need to
point out the obvious? What is the love affair with the site? I stand
by my claims. All I need provide is 80% of the people visiting the
site get the wrong impression about possible problems and non-problems
regarding their DNS. That in and of itself is evidence enough to
support my claims that the site is misleading and inaccurate in its
anaylisis.
>
>
>
>> And the kind of visitors who use his site are frequently,
>> predominantly?, DNS-ignorant, and are easily mislead by, eg, his
>> "glue" BS.
>
> Unless you have access to his http logs, such a conclusion is nothing
> more than speculation on your part...and insulting speculation at
> that.
It's not an insult, it is true. Ignorant does not mean stupid. I
still contend that the entire site should not be used as the save all,
end all analysis system for ones DNS. It is inaccurate, misleading and
altogether dangerous. If there were better explanations and links to
certain warnings and other items detailing where the problems with the
analysis may or may not be 100% accurate or slightly flawed, that would
be another thing.
>
> dnsreport provides a valuable and free tool. If it perfect? Is
> anything perfect? Do you know of any better tool for audits of dns
> zone records? Is that tool free? Does that tool run under OS X?
>
Yes, a good understanding of DNS, "DNS and BIND" comes to mind, that
our the ISP-DNS list, or this list. While it can be considered a nice
free tool for analysis, it needs to be understood that while not
perfect, it is completely misleading in some areas at many times..
Anyway, I do not want to create a pissing match over a DNS analysis web
site. But from my own stand point and experience, the site has done
more harm than good.. It raises questions and doubt in the minds of
those who view it from time to time when their should be none.
-
jer (jer@mia.net)
Bella Mia, Inc.
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