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Re: Panther, shared internet, and QDNS

From: Len Conrad
Date: Monday, December 29, 2003
Time: 6:49:52 pm


>Ahh, semantics! Gotta love it.

yep, but it's important

>You say "zone NS records", I say "authority NS records" - "authority" as
>in "claim of authority", not "conferring or delegating authority". The
>RFC's don't seem to define a precise name for these records

and I've never heard of any special name for them, so I don't make one
up. The "synonym fog" in computers is bad enough. We should use take the
main DNS RFCs as the "canonical/non-synonomous" usage.

>>Though logically part of the authoritative data, the RRs that describe
>>the top node of the zone are especially important to the zone's management.

The top node/apex node of a zone is required to contain the SOA record and
one NS record (demonstrated by MS W2K DNS GUI that "helpfully" creates
these two records automatically as soon as you define a sub-zone).

>>These RRs are of two types: name server RRs that list, one per RR, all of
>>the servers for the zone, and a single SOA RR that describes zone
>>management parameters.

see above

>I find myself unwilling to use the phrase "zone NS records", since this
>seems liable to cause confusion in newbies who don't understand the
>distinction between these records and delegation records.

Calling them "authority NS records" is idiosyncratic and more liable to
cause confusion with "delegation NS records", since delegation NS records
define the authoritative hostnames.

In the M&M DNS course, we distinguish simply between NS records:

"delegation records" (delegate hostname as authoritative for the zone)

and

"zone records" (as having no function). There's no need to qualify these
records to distinguish them from delegation NS records.

>Since the RFC groups these records with the SOA (Start of Authority)
>record, the phrase "authority NS records" seems justifiable.

... except that I've not seen any usage like that.

Len




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