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Re: Database/QDNS/BIND realtime integration

From: Codger
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2004
Time: 8:22:02 pm

Chris, this stuff just rocks! It'll make managing my own realtime
blacklist for my mail server a snap. It's gonna help put a bigger dent
into spam than I'm already doing.

On Jun 8, 2004, at 11:04 PM, Men & Mice Support wrote:

> Yes, absolutely. You can set a zone to be dynamic in QuickDNS. This is
> done zone-by-zone. In fact, QuickDNS allows you to edit your dynamic
> zone as if it were a static table - it uses a zone transfer to get the
> zone from the server, and then sends any changes as dynamic updates,
> without clobbering dynamic updates sent by other software.
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Chris Buxton Men & Mice
> Customer Support Specialist Making DNS Easy
>
> At 10:55 PM -0400 6/8/04, Codger wrote:
>> Thanks, Chris. This is great information. One last question. I do
>> understand you then that QuickDNS and static and dynamic zones
>> managed in the way you describe CAN coexist on the same machine
>> happily? We're using BIND 9.
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 10:06 PM, Men & Mice Support wrote:
>>
>>> For large zones that change frequently, we recommend using a dynamic
>>> zone instead of a static zone. This way, you only have to send
>>> changes to named, and you don't have to worry about the zone being
>>> open in QuickDNS when the database system wants to make changes.
>>>
>>> Try this shell command on Mac OS X 10.3.x:
>>>
>>> man nsupdate
>>>
>>> This will open the 'nsupdate' manual page so you can read about the
>>> command that can be used to send dynamic update messages to a zone.
>>> Note that, when QuickDNS sets a zone to be dynamic, it assumes use
>>> of a key (the same key as used by rndc, stored in
>>> /var/named/conf/user_before), so you'll need to keep that in mind
>>> when reading the documentation.
>>>
>>> If your database system is unable to execute shell commands, you can
>>> resort to this command to tell named to reload a zone from its zone
>>> file:
>>>
>>> rndc reload name.of.zone
>>>
>>> This assumes you're using BIND 9. If you're using BIND 8, use this
>>> command instead:
>>>
>>> ndc reload name.of.zone
>>> ____________________________________________________________________
>>> Chris Buxton Men & Mice
>>> Customer Support Specialist Making DNS Easy
>>>
>>> At 2:33 AM -0400 6/8/04, Codger wrote:
>>>> We operate a mail server and as such are constantly waging the war
>>>> against spam. Our mail server is quite robust (CommuniGate Pro) and
>>>> can make good use of realtime blackhole lists. There are several
>>>> good ones that we use.
>>>>
>>>> Our experience though reveals that what IP addresses we see
>>>> delivering or attempting to deliver spam and often not in any of
>>>> those lists. We maintain our own rbl which is working fine
>>>> actually, with one exception.
>>>>
>>>> We have to manually enter the IP's, and this is a time-consuming
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> I want to integrate our database which does the log analysis for
>>>> our mail server and can create fresh valid IP data and QDNS. I can
>>>> generate any file format necessary from the database and I want to
>>>> know the process for properly introducing QDNS to that data or data
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>> Exporting from QDNS is straightforward, but importing does not
>>>> import just IP data for new lines into the zone file, rather it
>>>> wants to create a NEW zone file instead. This it won't do because
>>>> the zone file already exists.
>>>>
>>>> So, please help if you can. Please explain how I can get a fresh
>>>> data file with the correct zone info in place and have QDNS and
>>>> BIND recognize it after I do. I have four servers (one master and
>>>> three slaves).
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> "What shall we do? What shall we do?" he cried, "Escaping goblins
>>>> to be caught by wolves!" - Bilbo Baggins
>>>>
>>>> The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkein
>>>> http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/returnoftheking/
>>>> trailer_large.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> "What shall we do? What shall we do?" he cried, "Escaping goblins to
>> be caught by wolves!" - Bilbo Baggins
>>
>> The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkein
>> http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/returnoftheking/
>> trailer_large.html
>
>
>

Kindest regards,

Ron

"What shall we do? What shall we do?" he cried, "Escaping goblins to be
caught by wolves!" - Bilbo Baggins

The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkein
http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/returnoftheking/trailer_large.html




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