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Re: Host Records?

From: Men & Mice Support
Date: Sunday, December 19, 2004
Time: 8:36:58 am

At 9:25 AM -0500 12/19/04, John May wrote:
>>We're working on transferring our pointinspace.com domain, which
>>has our ns1. and ns2.pointinspace.com DNS servers tied to it, off
>>of Network Solutions.
>>
>>It used to be required to make (and keep up to date) Host records
>>at Network Solutions for nameservers specifying their IP addresses.
>>Does this not exist anymore? I couldn't find any info on their
>>site...
>>
>>Thanks for any help!
>>
>> - John
>
>
>I'm still confused a bit about this. It used to be that Network
>Solutions registered the IP addresses of the nameservers for the
>domain. However, I can't find that setting anywhere anymore, nor
>with any other registrar.

That's because they make it hard to find. For some registrars, you
actually have to call them, speak to a live human, and hope that
human understands the request.

>It seems there's a catch 22 here. InterNic stores what name servers
>are responsible for a domain in their root server. However, if
>those nameservers are sub-domains of the domain that they're
>nameservers for, how does that work?

The solution is called a "glue" record. It's an A record that would
otherwise be out of place. In this case, it's an A record for the
name server in the com zone; it should exactly match the A record in
your zone.

If I query one of the servers authoritative for com about your
domain, it gives me this answer:

$ dig pointinspace.com @f.gtld-servers.net +norecurse

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pointinspace.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.pointinspace.com.
pointinspace.com. 172800 IN NS ns2.pointinspace.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.pointinspace.com. 172800 IN A 66.151.191.68
ns2.pointinspace.com. 172800 IN A 66.151.191.77

It gets all four records from the com zone, not from your servers.

>I assume that's what the old method of registering their IPs with
>Network Solutions was for?

Yes.

>Is it handled differently now?

No.

>Basically, our nameservers are ns1.pointinspace.com and
>ns2.pointinspace.com. Our domain is pointinspace.com, and our
>registrant record (with enom.com now) says ns1/ns2 are the DNS
>servers for it.

Then you have to change your host records with enom.com, not with NetSol.

>I'm concerned here as we need to do an IP reallocation, involving
>changing the IPs of ns1/ns2. So the big question is, do I need to
>change the IP settings for the nameservers anywhere else than in our
>local host record for the pointinspace.com domain?

Yes, definitely. If you go to enom.com and click on "my enom",
there's probably some way to change your name server records. At
least, that's what it sounds like from their help page.

Chris Buxton
Men & Mice - Making DNS Easy



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