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Re: Setting Up Reverse DNS Query

From: Men & Mice Support
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2005
Time: 11:25:53 am

Put dots on the ends of names that shouldn't end in the zone's name
(233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com). For example, here's
what happens with and without the dots:

ns.groovychocolate.com. => ns.groovychocolate.com.
ns.groovychocolate.com =>
ns.groovychocolate.com.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com.

There are a couple of upgrades available to you:

Free: QuickDNS Pro Server 2.2.4, which fixes some serious crashing
and spoofing bugs, is available here:
<ftp://ftp.menandmice.com/pub/quickdns/old/QuickDNSPro2.2.4.sit.hqx>

Paid: QuickDNS 4.6.1 is available for Mac OS X, as well as other
operating systems, but not for classic Mac OS.
<http://www.menandmice.com/3000/3230_order_quickdns_mac.html>

Chris Buxton
Men & Mice - Making DNS Easy

At 11:41 AM +0000 1/19/05, Stuart Douglas wrote:
>Hi
>
>I changed the name of the primary domain 0.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa
>to 233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com as suggested but that
>meant that the phrase '233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com '
>was added to every Parameter, both in the Domain information and
>Domain Window. forinstance, in the Domain Informaiton window, the
>'Primary' box was changed from
>
>ns.groovychocolate.com
>to
>ns.groovychocolate.com.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com
>
>and 'Hostmaster' was changed from
>
>hostmaster.groovychocolate.com
>
>to
>
>hostmaster.groovychocolate.com.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com.
>
>In the main Domain window, that made the PTR entry for our mailserver
>
>82.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate PTR
>mail.groovychocolate.com.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com.
>
>which presumably isn't right. When I click on the Parameter 1 part
>of each record to delete the
>233.20.212.in-addr.arpa.groovychocolate.com. bit I can't - all it
>let's me highlight and edit is the first mail.groovychocolate.com
>part.
>
>Sorry if I'm being dense, but this side of things is all new to me...
>
>Also, we have QuickDNS Pro 2.2.1 - is there an upgrade?
>
>Stuart
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Subject: Re: Setting Up Reverse DNS Query
>From: "Stuart Douglas" <stuart@groovychocolate.com>
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:00:07 -0000
>
>
>At 3:28 PM +0000 11/9/04, Stuart Douglas wrote:
>>From: "Men & Mice Support" <cbuxton@menandmice.com>
>>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:46:00 -0800
>>
>>>Setting up reverse DNS records isn't as straightforward as it sounds.
>>>First, you must figure out if the reverse zone belongs to your server.
>>
>>>With a regular domain name, when you register the domain, it's
>>>delegated to your server. A reverse zone must be similarly delegated,
>>>but "registration" is typically handled with your ISP rather than
>>>with a central registrar.
>>
>>>I looked up the PTR record delegation for ns.groovychocolate.com. The
>>>ednet.co.uk servers do in fact delegate your reverse records to your
>>>server. The zone name (called "domain name" in QuickDNS Pro 2.x) is:
>>
>>>233.20.212.in-addr.groovychocolate.com.
>>
>>>Creative, and perfectly legal. You don't even need to separate these
>>>into a reverse zone if you don't want to - just create records like
>>>this for each of your IP addresses:
>>
>>>82.233.20.212.in-addr.groovychocolate.com. PTR mail.groovychocolate.com.
>>
>>Ah, I was doing fine until this point Chris - our mail server and
>>Quick DNS are both on the 82 box, so I've already got a record :
>>
>>82.233.20.212.in-addr.groovychocolate.com. PTR ns.groovychocolate.com
>>
>>Is it allowable to have both records, ie:
>>
>>82.233.20.212.in-addr.groovychocolate.com. PTR mail.groovychocolate.com
>>82.233.20.212.in-addr.groovychocolate.com. PTR ns.groovychocolate.com
>
>It's not against the rules, but it's a bad idea in this case. You
>should have just the one pointing to mail.groovychocolate.com.
>
>I thought I;d done this right after your help, but today when one of our
>users tried to mail someone at easy.com they got a bounce back from the
>email admin there saying that we did not in fact have Reverse DNS setup for
>our mail server.
>
>The situation with our DNS server (which I took over responsibility for when
>our CTO left) is as follows:
>
>We have two Primary Domains set up,
>
>groovychocolate.com
>0.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa
>
>Our mail server and DNS server both reside on a mac cube with IP
>212.20.233.82. In the Primary Domain groovychocolate.com, we have (amongst
>others) these records
>
>groovychocolate.com NS ns.groovychocolate.com
>groovychocolate.com MX 10 mail.groovychocolate.com
>mail.groovychocolate.com A 212.20.233.82
>ns.groovychocolate.com A 212.20.233.82
>web.groovychocolate.com CNAME ns.groovychocolate.com
>
>and in the Primary Domain 0.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa we have the following
>entries:
>
>82.0.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa PTR mail.groovychocolate.com
>
>I'm not entirely sure why there is a zero in the 0.233.20.212.in-addr.arpa
>domain, but presumably that's required since it's always been there?
>
>Could someone suggest what we need to add (a CNAME to groovychocolate.com
>perhaps?)
>
>Regards
>
>Stuart
>
>
>D




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